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Us vs Them

by Bob Butler » Thu May 23, 2024 4:09 pm

Guest wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:31 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am
FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am

I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.
TROLL...or do you really believe this? :shock:
Was George Floyd among many of the black lives that mattered? Do laws outlawing abortion force one group’s religious beliefs on a majority and force pregnancy on the unwilling? Does Trump not believe he should be immune? Have gerrymandering and requirements on voting not disenfranchised?

Yes, I believe it. Not that all flaws in US and similar cultures are directly linked to white supremacy. Drugs and gang warfare could be a problem in the most lily white culture. Any time you outlaw anything popular you tempt criminals to profit. You get gang wars. Pointing out that flaws other than white supremacy exist does not disprove those that do.

Generational Dynamics features an instinct to hate, kill and oppress the different. It is real. It is a headache. Still, as I have frequently pointed out, there is an opposite instinct to love thy neighbor. I would expect both, and in one’s own culture I would discourage the latter and encourage the former. It is human nature to pit us against them. In America's case, it pits the old white European dominant culture expecting and believing in maintaining their dominance against the new multiracial, multicultural modern reality.

Do you really disbelieve this? Do you encourage hate and discourage love? Are you rejecting Generational Dynamics? Do you somehow manage to applaud John’s theory but not apply it to obvious examples of the theory in action?

Is a troll someone who tries to help the blind see?

Re: Democracy?

by Guest » Thu May 23, 2024 11:45 am

Bob Butler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am
FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.
And who is murdering blacks?

Other blacks.

Disenfranchised? That would be the people who voted for Trump only to see their ballots ignored.

Forced into pregnancy?

How so? And by who?

Prejudiced against?

Oh, you white males?

Or Asians being blocked from entering America's best schools?

Re: Democracy?

by Guest » Thu May 23, 2024 11:31 am

Bob Butler wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am
FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.
TROLL...or do you really believe this? :shock:

Re: Democracy?

by Bob Butler » Thu May 23, 2024 9:52 am

FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment.
If you were the one being murdered, forced into pregnancy, disenfranchised, prejudiced against, etc... you would not find the problems minor.

Generational dynamics. Oppress the different.

Re: Democracy?

by Guest » Thu May 23, 2024 6:04 am

FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment. You could easily insert Left although you probably meant Right. The argument for inserting Left is stronger on most counts. Stronger than you believe. Because the activism is from the Left and all the things you mention are as well. They're imaginations and conjurations. They don't exist for the majority of people in their ordinary lives. American people are good and understand what goodness is. Despite our current difficulties and divisions. We're better than ever before. And much progress is currently in evidence everywhere. But people aren't happy with having better than ever before. Progressivesm has become nihilism.
Bob's ideal world

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Re: Democracy?

by Guest » Thu May 23, 2024 5:03 am

FullMoon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am
Progressivesm has become nihilism.
You got it.

Re: Democracy?

by Guest » Thu May 23, 2024 5:01 am

Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
More like minorities with chips on their shoulders are going to destroy the country.

Re: Democracy?

by FullMoon » Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 am

Bob Butler wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm
If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.
I see the word 'if' starting each small indictment. You could easily insert Left although you probably meant Right. The argument for inserting Left is stronger on most counts. Stronger than you believe. Because the activism is from the Left and all the things you mention are as well. They're imaginations and conjurations. They don't exist for the majority of people in their ordinary lives. American people are good and understand what goodness is. Despite our current difficulties and divisions. We're better than ever before. And much progress is currently in evidence everywhere. But people aren't happy with having better than ever before. Progressivesm has become nihilism.

Democracy?

by Bob Butler » Wed May 22, 2024 8:50 pm

If the majority believes it should exercise bigotry, if it believes it should force it's way of worship on others, if it believes rule of law should not apply to it, if it believes minority voting should be hampered, if it believes economic privilege should be resevere for their own group, then of course democracy will not by that understanding flourish.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Wed May 22, 2024 6:51 pm

This guy gets it.

There is plenty of talk about the demographic changes happening in America, but not much thought about where it is headed. Some people mention the fact that the country will be majority-minority in a generation, but no one likes to think about that so that is as far as it ever gets. The people in charge seem to think America will be Brazil but without the favellas and kidnapping industry.

The fact is the social and political structures that have defined America cannot survive the demographic changes that are coming fast. The main reason for that is the majority population, once it becomes just another minority population, cannot continue to think like a majority population. The majority will no longer be able to swap the good of the whole for the good of their group.

Everything about America is the result of the majority population swapping their interest for the interest of the country. This altruism works only when the interests of the country are seen to align with the interest of the dominant majority, which is a thing that comes naturally when the majority is near ninety percent. Once that majority shrinks down to nearly fifty percent this perception collapses.

This is what we see happening all around us. The majority looks around and see nothing but angry minorities, both unhappy with their position in society and totally unwilling to sacrifice anything for the good of the whole. The campus protests, for example, are just another sign that we have reached the tragedy of the commons phase of the demographic collapse of the white majority.

That is the show this week. It is a rumination on how majorities naturally see themselves and how minorities naturally see themselves. Democracy can only work in a majoritarian society. Once a democratic society devolves into a majority-minority society, minoritarianism takes over and democracy is no longer possible. What comes next is from a set of choices most do not relish.
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