15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by FishbellykanakaDude » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:21 pm

Guest wrote:
Commenter wrote:... Why not ask Kim Kardashian or Kayne West to intervene? ...
Hmmmmm... That could be quite amusing. I say YES....!!

..'though there is no "Kayne West". But we can CREATE one! We have the POWAHHHHH... and power tools, to do so,.. so let's make it happen!

We can call him Kayne East, and make him, and Some-Random-Kardashian™-Configured-Sexbot, ambassadors to the East (thus "Kayne EAST") to save the East from itself.

Might work,.. ya' never know...

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by Guest » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:18 am

Commenter wrote:All I can say is that, if you are an Orthodox bigwig and are asking Rome for help, there's going to be a non-zero number of people who might normally support you who are gonna raise some eyebrows. Certainly doesn't make the situation any less complicated.
An Orthodox Patriarch appealing to the Pope smacks of modern social media. Why not ask Kim Kardashian or Kayne West to intervene?

The Patriarch is just a part of Putin's political machine, nothing more. Nothing more, and Kiril is the Patriarch of Russia. Russia is a 4th rate power under Putin. A mafia state. It's embarrassing. Modern Russia and the dwindling Russian people are a complete joke.

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by Commenter » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:26 am

All I can say is that, if you are an Orthodox bigwig and are asking Rome for help, there's going to be a non-zero number of people who might normally support you who are gonna raise some eyebrows. Certainly doesn't make the situation any less complicated.

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by Guest » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:14 am

CH86 wrote:
Guest wrote:
CH86 wrote:Evangelicals Support the Idea of a Russia/China/Radical Islam alliance because that alliance is supposed to bring about the end times and final days by eventually attacking Israel and the west. Its an eschatological political agenda that is incomprehensible to most Catholics, orthodox and Mainline protestants. They also support the idea of the US subordinating policy to Israel and strong Support for Israel as this is supposed to factor in their predicted version of the end times apocalypse.
Apocalyptic cults are nowhere near representative of the Protestant faith. Martin Luther would not approve.

Are you Serbian Orthodox?
I'm From a catholic family actually, although I myself have been secular. I Simply noted that Most of Eastern Europe is traditionally orthodox though.
That's not true. Latvia and Estonia are Lutheran. Lithuania is Catholic. Croatia, Slovenia, Poland, the Czechs, and minorities in Albania and Bosnia are Catholic. Bosnians and Albanians are majority Moslem. Romania and Bulgaria are Orthodox, but both have Moslem minorities. Albania has a large Orthodox Christian minority too. The Caucasus are Moslem and Orthodox. You don't really know much about Eastern Europe. You have an overly simplified view of it. Ethnicity is more important than religion in Eastern Europe. Religion is dead in the East in the traditional sense. It's a cultural distinction now.

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by CH86 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:08 pm

Guest wrote:
CH86 wrote:Evangelicals Support the Idea of a Russia/China/Radical Islam alliance because that alliance is supposed to bring about the end times and final days by eventually attacking Israel and the west. Its an eschatological political agenda that is incomprehensible to most Catholics, orthodox and Mainline protestants. They also support the idea of the US subordinating policy to Israel and strong Support for Israel as this is supposed to factor in their predicted version of the end times apocalypse.
Apocalyptic cults are nowhere near representative of the Protestant faith. Martin Luther would not approve.

Are you Serbian Orthodox?
I'm From a catholic family actually, although I myself have been secular. I Simply noted that Most of Eastern Europe is traditionally orthodox though.

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by Guest » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:46 am

CH86 wrote:Evangelicals Support the Idea of a Russia/China/Radical Islam alliance because that alliance is supposed to bring about the end times and final days by eventually attacking Israel and the west. Its an eschatological political agenda that is incomprehensible to most Catholics, orthodox and Mainline protestants. They also support the idea of the US subordinating policy to Israel and strong Support for Israel as this is supposed to factor in their predicted version of the end times apocalypse.
Apocalyptic cults are nowhere near representative of the Protestant faith. Martin Luther would not approve.

Are you Serbian Orthodox?

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by CH86 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:16 am

Evangelicals Support the Idea of a Russia/China/Radical Islam alliance because that alliance is supposed to bring about the end times and final days by eventually attacking Israel and the west. Its an eschatological political agenda that is incomprehensible to most Catholics, orthodox and Mainline protestants. They also support the idea of the US subordinating policy to Israel and strong Support for Israel as this is supposed to factor in their predicted version of the end times apocalypse.

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:31 pm

CH86 wrote:
Guest wrote:
CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.
Many Protestant churches do say the New Testament replaces the Old. What Protestant church are you referring to?
Many evangelical Pro-globalist and pro-neocon denominations effectively toss out the New testament with the exception their interpretation of the book of revelation. As a result they support a defense-based Israel but at the same time do everything possible to prevent decisive Israeli campaigns in the Mideast as that would contradict their interpretation of the end times. I would have had some respect for them if they had preached Muslim Extermination, but they don't and instead preach that the west must absorb terrorism and allow Russia and China to become emboldened and not do anything to deter them from join the Islamist. Many Modern protestant evangelicals are hostile the idea of the "church of the blood" that animated original Catholicism and orthodoxy as well as the original Lutherans and the Calvinists.

End time Evangelicals do not represent all Protestants. They are fringe group. One that punches above its weight. I do not support Israel, and I am Protestant (CE). And the rest of your argument is a highly flawed. I don't know many churches who support an alliance between Russia, China, and militant Islam. The Protestant faith includes a wide variety of beliefs. A true Christian would never support genocide.

Are you Serbian Orthodox?

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by CH86 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:49 pm

Guest wrote:
CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.
Many Protestant churches do say the New Testament replaces the Old. What Protestant church are you referring to?
Many evangelical Pro-globalist and pro-neocon denominations effectively toss out the New testament with the exception their interpretation of the book of revelation. As a result they support a defense-based Israel but at the same time do everything possible to prevent decisive Israeli campaigns in the Mideast as that would contradict their interpretation of the end times. I would have had some respect for them if they had preached Muslim Extermination, but they don't and instead preach that the west must absorb terrorism and allow Russia and China to become emboldened and not do anything to deter them from join the Islamist. Many Modern protestant evangelicals are hostile the idea of the "church of the blood" that animated original Catholicism and orthodoxy as well as the original Lutherans and the Calvinists.

Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

by Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:21 pm

CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.
Many Protestant churches do say the New Testament replaces the Old. What Protestant church are you referring to?

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