by CH86 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:00 pm
John wrote:Guest wrote:
> When their policies lead to millions of refugees flooding into
> Europe and destabilizing it, it becomes our problem.
That's a very good point. Burma's ethnic cleansing has driven
hundreds of thousands of Rohingyas into Bangladesh, destabilizing the
country and the region. That's not "internal business." That's
weaponizing refugees, and it's arguably a declaration of war.
So Boomers Favor Intervention. Xers and Millies Favor Just letting the cleansing play out. If we need Burma as an ally later, if necessary Court their regime as a bulwark against China or even India. Otherwise Just let things be, why western boomers don't understand this is incomprehensible.
Regarding Leadership while it is obviously best to have a well rounded leader and leadership, this is not always the case. The Problem is that when boomers have a "bad apple" the bad apple is likely to be such because He/She was naive, stupid, or too trusting, and thus unable to comprehend that the "other guy" may be a complete psychopath, or a homicidal/genocidal maniac. On the other Hand when Xers or Millies have a "bad apple" he/she is such because they were Ruthless, Sociopathic or evil, however unlike the "flawed" boomer, the "flawed" Xer/millie is unlikely to have his/her head up in the clouds, at least the Xer would be making realist based choices. The gripe Xers and millies have with the boomers is that the boomers refuse to let Xers and Millies make their own choices on whether to embrace good or to embrace evil, instead the boomer insists on choosing for the young and then implementing the boomer's choice regarding practical effects.
Regarding foreign genocides, those of who pay attention to such tragic events, those Xers and Millies who bother to take note; tend to think of one question, are these people (being slaughtered) related to us, friends or potential friends, or are they Not (strangers), if its strangers killing strangers, the youngs mindset is "we cannot help you, we are not going to help you, we don't know you, we do not and will not care". Among those boomers who bother to take note when foreign genocides occur, their generations penchant for selfishness takes hold and manifests itself as a desire to take resources intended for American (and other western) use, and brimming with extreme selfishness, the boomers then gives those resources to foreign strangers that ought to be going to improvements within western countries.
On a separate note I know that I have rambled on somewhat in the above paragraph so i'll simplify the point I was making by using a hypothetical example based on WW2: A bunch of defenseless Jews and other innocents have been rounded up by a Nazi SS officer, it is clear that there is nothing the group of Jews can do to avoid the fate the SS officer has in store for them. The Nazi begins shooting innocent person after innocent person in the head and killing them like in that scene from Schindler's list (the one where the commandant was shooting Jew after Jew). While this is going on suddenly an American Soldier appears filled with righteous anger, the American shoots and Kills the Nazi and then leads the surviving Jews and innocents to Safety. What Russia, China, Iran, Syria and Burma, etc. are trying to Say is that In the above example it was the Nazi's rights that were violated because the Nazi was just minding his own business when the American soldier who had no relation whatsoever to the group of people being killed suddenly appeared and killed the Nazi, essentially the point that being attempted to by Russia, Syria and Burma especially, is that the American had no business being there in the above example. The problem is that the US under boomer leadership is not even attempting to discuss the issue regarding international Law being presented by Russia, China and others, however our government refuses to acknowledge that there is an argument regarding this issue.
[quote="John"][quote="Guest"]
> When their policies lead to millions of refugees flooding into
> Europe and destabilizing it, it becomes our problem.[/quote]
That's a very good point. Burma's ethnic cleansing has driven
hundreds of thousands of Rohingyas into Bangladesh, destabilizing the
country and the region. That's not "internal business." That's
weaponizing refugees, and it's arguably a declaration of war.[/quote]
So Boomers Favor Intervention. Xers and Millies Favor Just letting the cleansing play out. If we need Burma as an ally later, if necessary Court their regime as a bulwark against China or even India. Otherwise Just let things be, why western boomers don't understand this is incomprehensible.
Regarding Leadership while it is obviously best to have a well rounded leader and leadership, this is not always the case. The Problem is that when boomers have a "bad apple" the bad apple is likely to be such because He/She was naive, stupid, or too trusting, and thus unable to comprehend that the "other guy" may be a complete psychopath, or a homicidal/genocidal maniac. On the other Hand when Xers or Millies have a "bad apple" he/she is such because they were Ruthless, Sociopathic or evil, however unlike the "flawed" boomer, the "flawed" Xer/millie is unlikely to have his/her head up in the clouds, at least the Xer would be making realist based choices. The gripe Xers and millies have with the boomers is that the boomers refuse to let Xers and Millies make their own choices on whether to embrace good or to embrace evil, instead the boomer insists on choosing for the young and then implementing the boomer's choice regarding practical effects.
Regarding foreign genocides, those of who pay attention to such tragic events, those Xers and Millies who bother to take note; tend to think of one question, are these people (being slaughtered) related to us, friends or potential friends, or are they Not (strangers), if its strangers killing strangers, the youngs mindset is "we cannot help you, we are not going to help you, we don't know you, we do not and will not care". Among those boomers who bother to take note when foreign genocides occur, their generations penchant for selfishness takes hold and manifests itself as a desire to take resources intended for American (and other western) use, and brimming with extreme selfishness, the boomers then gives those resources to foreign strangers that ought to be going to improvements within western countries.
On a separate note I know that I have rambled on somewhat in the above paragraph so i'll simplify the point I was making by using a hypothetical example based on WW2: A bunch of defenseless Jews and other innocents have been rounded up by a Nazi SS officer, it is clear that there is nothing the group of Jews can do to avoid the fate the SS officer has in store for them. The Nazi begins shooting innocent person after innocent person in the head and killing them like in that scene from Schindler's list (the one where the commandant was shooting Jew after Jew). While this is going on suddenly an American Soldier appears filled with righteous anger, the American shoots and Kills the Nazi and then leads the surviving Jews and innocents to Safety. What Russia, China, Iran, Syria and Burma, etc. are trying to Say is that In the above example it was the Nazi's rights that were violated because the Nazi was just minding his own business when the American soldier who had no relation whatsoever to the group of people being killed suddenly appeared and killed the Nazi, essentially the point that being attempted to by Russia, Syria and Burma especially, is that the American had no business being there in the above example. The problem is that the US under boomer leadership is not even attempting to discuss the issue regarding international Law being presented by Russia, China and others, however our government refuses to acknowledge that there is an argument regarding this issue.