4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

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Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by Guest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:44 am

CH86 wrote:Its largely a myth that Africa is Resource-rich though. There are a lot of diamonds there, yes; but there hardly any oil or ferrous minerals there. There is not even that great agricultural land over there and large chunks of what usable land there is there is infested with dangerous diseases and vectors. Thats why America has generally regarded the continent as a strategic backwater. Our Support of Ethiopia and Kenya was to bolster the war on terror (and thus has much more to due with the middle east), you know that war that started on 9/11/2001 that boomers have NO interest whatsoever in winning.
Africa is not as resource rich as some believe. That's true. But in a finite world, 'rich' has become relative. A lot of Africa's resources are untapped because Africa is a diseased hellhole. It's hotter than hell. The weather is either heavy rains and floods or droughts and starvation. Africa has never been an easy place to live. It's an unmitigated hell now.

South Africa was still really nice into the late 1980s when I visited. I remember entering South Africa from Zimbabwe, and it was like night and day. The black soldiers in the SA army were extremely professional and well trained. White army officers were gods. The Zim side of the border consisted of dilapidated infrastructure and ragged people. But the worst was still a decade away. The roads in Apartheid South Africa were some of the best in the world. There was very little crime outside of the black townships. The economy, although under sanctions, was thriving. Money was everywhere. I remember Israelis on every corner.

Ah, the 80s.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by CH86 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Its largely a myth that Africa is Resource-rich though. There are a lot of diamonds there, yes; but there hardly any oil or ferrous minerals there. There is not even that great agricultural land over there and large chunks of what usable land there is there is infested with dangerous diseases and vectors. Thats why America has generally regarded the continent as a strategic backwater. Our Support of Ethiopia and Kenya was to bolster the war on terror (and thus has much more to due with the middle east), you know that war that started on 9/11/2001 that boomers have NO interest whatsoever in winning.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by Guest » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:39 pm

CH86 wrote:China's military is configured for Crossing land borders and policing/holding down the Chinese citizenry, not long distance amphibious/airborne operations. This entire discussion is based on fantasies.

China needs huge amounts of resources just to survive and keep the light on. China will go wherever it has to to survive. Period.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by CH86 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:17 pm

China's military is configured for Crossing land borders and policing/holding down the Chinese citizenry, not long distance amphibious/airborne operations. This entire discussion is based on fantasies.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by Guest » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:31 am

Africans are cowards. I've seen them in combat: 'spray and pray' only. Africa could easily be reconquered. Just arm one tribe in each country and let them rape and slaughter the rival tribes. They would do it gleefully and be content to live off table scraps. You have no idea how degraded this race really is. Really, you have no idea how depraved they are.

I know Koreans and Chinese who have lived and worked in Africa. They hate Africans. Not for the color of their skin (which they find extremely repulsive), but for their complete lack of honor. Black people horrify Asians like no other race.

Being sent to Africa is a punishment for the Chinese. Most of the workers I have encountered working on site are the dregs of China. The most uncouth and dirtiest Chinese I have ever met work in Africa. The Chinese supervisors live in near total isolation from the locals. They don't want to even share an office with them. But I think it is unfair to attack them for it. How many Americans would want to share an office with an African? One senior Chinese manager told me privately (and wistfully) that everyone stationed in China was desperately trying to figure out a way to get back home or be assigned to another country in Asia or if they were really lucky America. (Yes, the Chinese want to go to America.)

Africans are extremely racist. Don 't kid yourself.

All of these useless millennials that think 'people are all the same; there is good in everyone' are in for a severe shock when they visit Africa. Most lie and say what a 'magical experience' it was... Save your time and money, and possible your life, and take my word for it. You can avoid a lot of the misadventures I have had.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by FishbellykanakaDude » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:21 pm

Guest wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Silent Guest 2 wrote:Question fish:
How will tribal spears and asigais measure up to tanks and missiles?
Just a thought.
Poorly. :)

..but people are very clever, and they will find a way, or they'll find others who will assist them.

Roaming hordes of Chinese Military is the very definition of "World War III", which we've already established as inevitable, so what's your problem with the proposed progression?
Africans are not clever. Dishonest, yes, but clever? No. I have had to deal with Africans a lot in the past, and they are, for the most part, cheats, thieves, and liars. The average African has no sense of honor at all. They rape and steal whenever the opportunity arises. The Christians are much worse than the Muslims. I seriously doubt they will ever be able to throw out the Chinese without a lot of help from the Europe and America. Africans are the most ungrateful and spiteful people you will ever meet. I gave up even trying to deal with them several years ago. If it were for natural resources, no one would even bother to visit Africa.

The Chinese are what the Africans deserve. Decades of crying, bitching, and backstabbing have caught up with them. China won't tolerate African duplicity. I don't have any sympathy for any of them.
Well,.. I can't very well argue with you as to your first hand observations, and I don't have much reason to doubt that you're relatively accurate, but their "character" doesn't have much to do with it, in my opinion.

The simple fact is that an African continent being overrun by Chinese troops WILL elicit quite the response, and that response to that action is the very definition of World War.

Africa is desperate, and desperate people take risky and panicky chances, and when those chances don't pay off they panic again and become combative or despondent (fight or flight), and that begs for a response from their "bookies", as well as their bookies' enemies.

..and thus spins the wheel of war.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by Guest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:58 am

FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Silent Guest 2 wrote:Question fish:
How will tribal spears and asigais measure up to tanks and missiles?
Just a thought.
Poorly. :)

..but people are very clever, and they will find a way, or they'll find others who will assist them.

Roaming hordes of Chinese Military is the very definition of "World War III", which we've already established as inevitable, so what's your problem with the proposed progression?
Africans are not clever. Dishonest, yes, but clever? No. I have had to deal with Africans a lot in the past, and they are, for the most part, cheats, thieves, and liars. The average African has no sense of honor at all. They rape and steal whenever the opportunity arises. The Christians are much worse than the Muslims. I seriously doubt they will ever be able to throw out the Chinese without a lot of help from the Europe and America. Africans are the most ungrateful and spiteful people you will ever meet. I gave up even trying to deal with them several years ago. If it were for natural resources, no one would even bother to visit Africa.

The Chinese are what the Africans deserve. Decades of crying, bitching, and backstabbing have caught up with them. China won't tolerate African duplicity. I don't have any sympathy for any of them.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by FishbellykanakaDude » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:32 am

Silent Guest 2 wrote:Question fish:
How will tribal spears and asigais measure up to tanks and missiles?
Just a thought.
Poorly. :)

..but people are very clever, and they will find a way, or they'll find others who will assist them.

Roaming hordes of Chinese Military is the very definition of "World War III", which we've already established as inevitable, so what's your problem with the proposed progression?

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by Silent Guest 2 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:53 pm

Question fish:
How will tribal spears and asigais measure up to tanks and missiles?
Just a thought.

Re: 4-Sep-18 World View -- China courts African nations as charges of 'neo-colonialism' grow

by FishbellykanakaDude » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:40 pm

Trevor wrote:I could think of another reason Chinese parents aren't having a second child: the CCP could always change their mind and reinstitute the one-child policy.
Mars needs WOMEN (who can make babies/soldiers)!

They need to grow their population, not reduce it, as war is the goal.

I wonder if the African nations will join us, or decide to fight alongside China. In a Third World War, neutrality is likely not going to be an option for most nations. They despise the West and the United States, but those feelings are growing towards China as well. Most of the world seems to improve economically over time, but Africa just continues to get worse.
Africa will take Chinese money, and go bankrupt, and plead for bailouts from the West, and not get them, and cede land/facilities to the Chinese, until great masses of Africans take it back and plunge their countries into mimicking Haiti.

..leaving China to either make war on Africa, or suck it up and try the next scam in their scam arsenal.

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