by Guest » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:00 pm
Guest wrote:It's not NATOs place to say what countries are independent. That is left up to national governments. NATO fought to free Kosova from Serbian domination. It was never its mission to determine its political status.
Of course. John said that Kosovo's independence was recognized by NATO and the EU, but I don't think that is accurate. NATO's official statements (that I have read) have been very carefully worded not to address the issue.
Guest wrote:The nations who do not recognize Kosova do that to deter independence movements in their own territory: China (Tibet), Spain (Barcelona), Azerbjian (Norgo-Karbahk), Russia (Chechnya--though hypocritically supporting break away regions that are allied to Moscow, i.e. Transnistria , Abkhazia, and South Ossetia), Greece (Turkish Cyprus), and Israel (Palestine). The rest of the world recognizes it. Russia and China block its admission to the UN.
This is partially correct, bot not complete. As you point out, Putin supports break-away regions that are his allies, or rather puppet states occupied by Russian troops. But he opposes separatist when the mother state is his ally. In this case, Serbia and Russia are traditional allies. Similarly, Greeks are traditionally allied with the Serbs against the Albanians, who in turn are allied with the Turks, historic enemy of the Greeks. It really comes down to politics. The principles of law are rewritten to fit the politics every time.
Guest wrote:Kosova is NOT permitted by the EU and NATO to have a standing army. It's a bizarre situation for a nation that borders potential invaders like Serbia, Montenegro, and Macedonia.
Hence the argument that it is a puppet state.
[quote="Guest"]It's not NATOs place to say what countries are independent. That is left up to national governments. NATO fought to free Kosova from Serbian domination. It was never its mission to determine its political status. [/quote]
Of course. John said that Kosovo's independence was recognized by NATO and the EU, but I don't think that is accurate. NATO's official statements (that I have read) have been very carefully worded not to address the issue.
[quote="Guest"]The nations who do not recognize Kosova do that to deter independence movements in their own territory: China (Tibet), Spain (Barcelona), Azerbjian (Norgo-Karbahk), Russia (Chechnya--though hypocritically supporting break away regions that are allied to Moscow, i.e. Transnistria , Abkhazia, and South Ossetia), Greece (Turkish Cyprus), and Israel (Palestine). The rest of the world recognizes it. Russia and China block its admission to the UN.[/quote]
This is partially correct, bot not complete. As you point out, Putin supports break-away regions that are his allies, or rather puppet states occupied by Russian troops. But he opposes separatist when the mother state is his ally. In this case, Serbia and Russia are traditional allies. Similarly, Greeks are traditionally allied with the Serbs against the Albanians, who in turn are allied with the Turks, historic enemy of the Greeks. It really comes down to politics. The principles of law are rewritten to fit the politics every time.
[quote="Guest"]Kosova is NOT permitted by the EU and NATO to have a standing army. It's a bizarre situation for a nation that borders potential invaders like Serbia, Montenegro, and Macedonia.[/quote]
Hence the argument that it is a puppet state.