6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

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Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by FishbellykanakaDude » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:56 am

CH86 wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
JRJ wrote:While I appreciate Generational Dynamics point of view, I am struggling to see Iran joining the US and Russia in the clash of civilization. Without regime change coming from within Iran, I just can not see them joining. What am I missing? Am I falling for the perception that this clash of civilization will happen quickly (over the next 2-4 years) or am I just wearing blinders when it comes to Iran?
Obviously, Iran would have to feel itself more "allied in spirit/principle" with "the west" and against China, and that wouldn't actually be THAT difficult once the "old guard" is removed as the arbiters of "good guys and bad guys".

How it is that "the old guard" gets moved out of the way is the only question.
We need to remove the "old guard" from America, Not Iran.
Time will do that quite quickly enough, thank you very much. <chuckle!>

It's just silly "pushing the river" to use "muscle" to speed up the process in a society like America.

Patience young one,.. patience... climb the bank and ready your baskets and gigs, and be happy in knowing.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by CH86 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:42 am

FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
JRJ wrote:While I appreciate Generational Dynamics point of view, I am struggling to see Iran joining the US and Russia in the clash of civilization. Without regime change coming from within Iran, I just can not see them joining. What am I missing? Am I falling for the perception that this clash of civilization will happen quickly (over the next 2-4 years) or am I just wearing blinders when it comes to Iran?
Obviously, Iran would have to feel itself more "allied in spirit/principle" with "the west" and against China, and that wouldn't actually be THAT difficult once the "old guard" is removed as the arbiters of "good guys and bad guys".

How it is that "the old guard" gets moved out of the way is the only question.
We need to remove the "old guard" from America, Not Iran.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by Guest » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:08 am

I live in South Korea. Do you think the situation is still unstable? The local press acts as if everything is back to normal.

Today's headlines
Moon calls for East Asian rail community: In Liberation Day speech, Moon says improving ties with NK will bring ‘genuine liberation’ for Korea

S. Korea gears up for family reunions

Inter-Korean military communication line fully restored: defense ministry

Hopes high for possible Pompeo visit to Pyongyang
However, one story seem to break through the positivity bubble the left wing press has been floating:
South Koreans doubtful about denuclearization, see relations with US as vital

"On the subject of US troops in South Korea after a peace deal is reached on the peninsula, nearly 70 percent of respondents said that their continued presence is necessary. "
Most of the older South Koreans I speak with are really naive, no that's not the right word, stupid. They honestly believe that unification is at hand. I always tell them that I agree, but that the kind of unification coming might not be what they expect.

Koreans seem to want things their way: America tolerates North Korea's lies and simply accepts that one day North Korean nuclear weapons will destroy America's West Coast while at the same time we should maintain troops in the South and bankroll North Korea. It pisses me off, to say the least.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by Concerned citizen » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:15 pm

Wouldn't the collapse of the Turkish Lira lead to the financial collapse of Europe? I know French and Italian banks have invested heavily in Turkey, so the collapse of the Turkish currency would lead to a string of corporate defaults.

Is Trump really imposing sanctions on Turkey because of the American pastor locked up in a Turkish jail, or is this part of a long term WW 3 strategy? Is this playing with fire so early in the game a bit much? Or are we deep in to the game already?

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by John » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:56 pm

FishbellykanakaDude wrote: > The "semi-thinking" (for lack of a better word) of the generation
> is (probably): If I can bridge the "danger zone" that is the GD
> Crisis War Period (ie "kick it down the road long enough"), then
> perhaps there won't BE a Crisis War at all!?
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. As time goes on, the
probability of a crisis war increases with each year.

However, I believe that's what Trump is trying to do.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by FishbellykanakaDude » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:50 pm

Cynic Hero 86 wrote:The problem is selfish boomers want to take advantage of technology and improved health tech and longer lifespans to ensure that prophets generation control things the entire saeculum rather than just 1/4th of it.
Generations are not individuals. Is it a surprise that a population mass (a generation) would "selfishly" hold on to that which it doesn't need to give up? (..and considers to be it's property.)

It's just another "justification for resentment" to mistake "a generation" for "any and every individual within that generation". That kind of misrepresentation only serves to fuel "action through hatred" in the speakers "audience".

The "semi-thinking" (for lack of a better word) of the generation is (probably): If I can bridge the "danger zone" that is the GD Crisis War Period (ie "kick it down the road long enough"), then perhaps there won't BE a Crisis War at all!?

..it's a natural but rather infantile "thought", of course, but we are talking about the "mind" of a huge mass of people as a gestalt.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by John » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:20 am

Concerned citizen wrote: > Sorry to interrupt, but what is going to happen with Trump and NK?
> Also, Gerald Celente thinks Trump will end the Afghan war and
> bring home most o the troops from Europe and Asia. Does that fit
> with GD? Celente is a trends forecaster, but he believes Putin is
> innocent in the Crimea and Ukraine, so I find his conclusions to
> be untrustworthy. He does seem to have a huge following
> though.
Most of that is idiotic nonsense. With regard to Afghanistan, see the
following:

** 10-Jun-18 World View -- Afghan Taliban launches multiple terror attacks, then declares farcical ceasefire
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180610


See particularly the paragraph near the end about maintaining the two
air bases in Bagram and Kandahar International Airport.

By the way, the big news today is not Afghanistan, but the Turkish
lira.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by Concerned citizen » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:09 am

Sorry to interrupt, but what is going to happen with Trump and NK? Also, Gerald Celente thinks Trump will end the Afghan war and bring home most o the troops from Europe and Asia. Does that fit with GD? Celente is a trends forecaster, but he believes Putin is innocent in the Crimea and Ukraine, so I find his conclusions to be untrustworthy. He does seem to have a huge following though.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by CH86 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:20 am

Regarding boomers Most Xers and Millies see boomers as having wasted 20 years just hogging up political power and generally not blocking any meaningful policy from being implemented. Boomers have been in power for 26 years and they have wasted 20 of them( the only reason I say 20 years and not 26 years, is that the economic and international situations were generally quite good in the years between 1992 and 1998 so there was no need for reform yet). I see Bin Laden's broadcasting his threats and stance against the US in 1998 followed by the two embassy bombings as a watershed that any non-selfish generation would have seen as signpost that things were not right. Instead the boomer seeks to stuff himself with goodies and wallow and decadence and have effectively forbidden reform unless there is something catastrophic such as the collapse of the power grid or a terrorist attack or enemy attack severe enough to accomplish the same thing. The selfish boomer has effectively declared that reform is forbidden for anything short of that. When 9/11 occurred, people born after 1955 were willing to implement war bonds and and enlist had they been given the order to do so, however selfish boomers decided to declare "go shopping", the negative effects of the boomers artificially prolonging the unraveling are increasingly obvious.

Re: 6-Aug-18 World View -- John Bolton and Marco Rubio describe North Korea strategy, as sanctions are violated

by Cynic Hero 86 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:32 pm

The problem is selfish boomers want to take advantage of technology and improved health tech and longer lifespans to ensure that prophets generation control things the entire saeculum rather than just 1/4th of it.

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