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by **FishbellykanakaDude** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:08 pm

Guest wrote:...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... -released/

The EU Election Observation Mission to Pakistan's chief Michael Gahler told reporters in Islamabad that "a number of violent attacks, targeting political parties, party leaders, candidates and election officials, severely affected the campaign environment".

"Many of our interlocutors acknowledged a systematic effort to undermine the former ruling party through cases of corruption, contempt of court and terrorist charges against its leaders and candidates," he continued.

..apparently the "N" in "SNAFU" means something other than "Normal" in Pakistan.

I doubt he'll be pumping blood betwixt heart and brain for TOO terribly long, though. Hopefully, maybe, I'll be wrong about that.

by **Guest** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:02 pm

guest wrote:
Guest wrote:Your favorite Pakistani politician Imran Khan is poised to be the next PM of Pakistan. Any comment on that, John?
I doubt he will get elected. He is a fringe candidate.

It looks like this guy might become the next PM, albeit by cheating...

A jubilant Khan has already declared victory in the pivotal vote, which has drawn allegations of massive vote-rigging in his favour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... -released/

I'm not sure if this article can be read by the unwashed public. I have a paid subscription to the Telegraph. Interesting reading.

by **guest** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:16 am

Guest wrote:Your favorite Pakistani politician Imran Khan is poised to be the next PM of Pakistan. Any comment on that, John?

I doubt he will get elected. He is a fringe candidate.

by **Guest** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:57 am

Your favorite Pakistani politician Imran Khan is poised to be the next PM of Pakistan. Any comment on that, John?

by **FishbellykanakaDude** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:28 am

CH86 wrote:
Silent Guest 2 wrote:When I am dealt a poker hand, I expect the 5 cards to retain the same colors and face values until replaced. Afghanistan and the multi-faced crazed muslim sects play poker, pinochle, bridge and euchre interchangeably, sometimes simultaneously. Dostum seems to be The Joker, definitely a self-serving wild card.
A second person in my life is now returning to fight in Afghanistan. Both patriotism and concern for peasants caught in the tumult are reasons given by 2 men who have never talked to each other. They and we are fighting in unprincipled nations. "Norm" is a concept that is not universal.
I thank your relative and the soldiers for their continuing service in the war on terror. Here in your reply however you raise the question of morality in war, to this I respond: why should America be fighting for everyday peasants within a nation. We should be securing the support of the governments of countries around the war and have military/deterrence based policies with adversary nations. Just because Assad massacred civilians in Syria doesn't mean that he ceased to be a statesman on the world stage. Silents and Boomers like yourself refuse to allow prudent military preparation or prudent diplomacy to take place. The obsession with "regime change" is apparent and obvious with your two generations. The Assads and Milosevics of the world are just as legitimate rulers and the Presidents and Prime Ministers here in western countries. Regime Change is effectively attempting mind-control.

"Legitimate-ness" is not a characteristic of "national leaders". A "leader" (head of state) is either in power and losing power, or in power and gaining power. If they're not in power at all, then they're (by definition) not a leader. If they're losing power they will soon-ish not be a leader, and if they're gaining power they will remain in power.

"Diplomacy" is simply threatening leaders susceptible, due to their "losing power" status, to convincing that they should act as the "opposing diplomat" requests, with losing more and more power via some form of "war" (coersion).

A burglar is a "legitimate wealth redistribution agent" until the property owner's bit of really hot fast moving metal enters the burglar's brain.

"Leaders" need to always feel threatened, as do all populations, to keep them as close to "good behavior" as possible.

After "heavy threatening" has proven to work, then lightening up on it in stages over time until an absolute minimum is required is the way to go!

..but claiming to be a legitimate leader and having a border is not a magical shield warding off those who would see you lose power.

by **Silent Guest 2** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:11 pm

CH:
In this case, our differences result from the definition of regime/government. Moral/standards based thinkers define govt as existing to serve the governed peoples' benefit. That definition excludes such abominations as genocides, slavery, mob rule and unaddressed anarchy and violence.
Dictatorships/Tyrannies specifically exist to benefit those in power. Peasants serve the rulers or else. The "or else" is enforced by a police state which includes murder, mass and/or individual, torture, deprivation and unjust captivity. Poverty and socialism are generally part of these atrocities.
Assad is not a world leader and definitely not a "statesman". He is a brutal obsessive dictator who has no legitimate presence on the world scene. Syria has a tribal history not comparable with any form of civilized behavior. Why you choose to defend his conduct is a mystery.
My family's choices have been generationally defense of individual rights and righteousness. We have gone to battle, paid the price and will not abandon that code.

by **CH86** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 pm

Silent Guest 2 wrote:When I am dealt a poker hand, I expect the 5 cards to retain the same colors and face values until replaced. Afghanistan and the multi-faced crazed muslim sects play poker, pinochle, bridge and euchre interchangeably, sometimes simultaneously. Dostum seems to be The Joker, definitely a self-serving wild card.
A second person in my life is now returning to fight in Afghanistan. Both patriotism and concern for peasants caught in the tumult are reasons given by 2 men who have never talked to each other. They and we are fighting in unprincipled nations. "Norm" is a concept that is not universal.

I thank your relative and the soldiers for their continuing service in the war on terror. Here in your reply however you raise the question of morality in war, to this I respond: why should America be fighting for everyday peasants within a nation. We should be securing the support of the governments of countries around the war and have military/deterrence based policies with adversary nations. Just because Assad massacred civilians in Syria doesn't mean that he ceased to be a statesman on the world stage. Silents and Boomers like yourself refuse to allow prudent military preparation or prudent diplomacy to take place. The obsession with "regime change" is apparent and obvious with your two generations. The Assads and Milosevics of the world are just as legitimate rulers and the Presidents and Prime Ministers here in western countries. Regime Change is effectively attempting mind-control.

by **Silent Guest 2** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:21 am

When I am dealt a poker hand, I expect the 5 cards to retain the same colors and face values until replaced. Afghanistan and the multi-faced crazed muslim sects play poker, pinochle, bridge and euchre interchangeably, sometimes simultaneously. Dostum seems to be The Joker, definitely a self-serving wild card.
A second person in my life is now returning to fight in Afghanistan. Both patriotism and concern for peasants caught in the tumult are reasons given by 2 men who have never talked to each other. They and we are fighting in unprincipled nations. "Norm" is a concept that is not universal.

by **John** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:12 pm

23-Jul-18 World View -- ISIS-K bombing in Kabul, Afghanistan, targets returning vice president Abdul Rashid Dostum

ISIS-K claims credit for bomb targeting Uzbek warlord General Dostum

** 23-Jul-18 World View -- ISIS-K bombing in Kabul, Afghanistan, targets returning vice president Abdul Rashid Dostum
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180723

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ISIS-K bombing in Kabul, Afghanistan, targets returning vice president Abdul Rashid Dostum
ISIS-K claims credit for bomb targeting Uzbek warlord General Dostum

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Generational Dynamics, Afghanistan, Kabul, Ashraf Ghani,
Abdul Rashid Dostum, Ahmad Eshchi, Turkey,
Atta Mohammad Noor, Mohammad Mohaqiq,
Pashtuns, Taliban, Northern Alliance, Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbekistan,
ISIS Khorasan, Wilayah Khorasan, ISIS-K, ISKP

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