2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

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Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Guest » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:53 am

China is toxic. You can't eat what is grown there; you can't drink the water; you can't even breathe the air in China. Look around China. Where can you grow food that won't be laced with toxins. Rich Chinese won't eat, drink or even wear ANYTHING that was produced in China. That country is toxic.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by CH86 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:56 pm

thomasglee wrote:
Cynic Hero 86 wrote:Finally most of our military bases are located in red states as well.


The reason why so many can never take you serious is because you cannot stick to a point and back it up when challenged. You started out implying that China was specifically targeting Red states over Blue states. Then, when it is pointed out that your implication is just incorrect, you shift and try to play off that you were meaning something totally different. If you are going to make a claim, be able to back it up with substance. When you can't, admit you misspoke; don't just try to change the direction of your original intent.


The intent of my posts never changed, the point that was being made has remained the same the whole time. My position that China deliberately targeted red states, is backed up by the CCPs own mouthpieces themselves. The Chinese themselves are saying they are targeting red states specifically.

Here's one Mouthpiece talking of targeting red states:

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1095675.shtml

Here's another mouthpiece saying essentially the same thing:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... e-it-hurts
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... -trade-war

Regarding potential geopolitical and economic implications, the Chinese are shooting themselves in the foot regarding their entire strategy. US farmers will simply trade in the domestic market and with Latin America and Europe which will make up for the revenue lost in China. Agricultural Products like pistachios that are currently procured from China could simply be grown from alternative sources in the domestic market if there is demand for it.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by thomasglee » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:30 pm

Cynic Hero 86 wrote:Finally most of our military bases are located in red states as well.


The reason why so many can never take you serious is because you cannot stick to a point and back it up when challenged. You started out implying that China was specifically targeting Red states over Blue states. Then, when it is pointed out that your implication is just incorrect, you shift and try to play off that you were meaning something totally different. If you are going to make a claim, be able to back it up with substance. When you can't, admit you misspoke; don't just try to change the direction of your original intent.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:54 pm

Just nuke North Korea and China. I want to see those countries burn before I die. Even if I die an hour later.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Cynic Hero 86 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:39 am

Cynic Hero 86 wrote:
Cynic Hero 86 wrote:
thomasglee wrote:
Really? Once again, you take huge leaps. China targeted industries which export a lot to China; they don't care if the products come from red or blue states. All they care about is applying a tit-for-tat. The only industry China could target, that would have any effect on the USA, is agriculture. It just happens to be that most agricultural products come from red states.

China will target whatever they believe will have the most impact. And if war were to break out, Silicon Valley would be HIGH on their target list.


The US exports Tech and aerospace equipment and oil and oil producing equipment to foreign countries routinely, not just agriculture. All of this however is irrelevant as this discussion of strategic targeting is predicated on the prior destruction of all retaliation capability. In the case of the an enemy targeting the US that means the destruction of all 4000+ bases, 1000+ missile silos and 14 to 18 missile subs.


All of this is on the assumption of the current geopolitical and political context. In other words "if a war broke out today" scenario. If a war broke out lets say 5 to 10 years from now, things will obviously be different from whats stated above.


Finally most of our military bases are located in red states as well.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Cynic Hero 86 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:41 pm

Cynic Hero 86 wrote:
thomasglee wrote:
Cynic Hero 86 wrote:In an actual all out war between China and the US, China would target primarily red states if the strategic weaponry comes in to play. Note that in the Current trade war, the Chinese are deliberately targeting red state industries and are generally avoiding Blue industries.


Really? Once again, you take huge leaps. China targeted industries which export a lot to China; they don't care if the products come from red or blue states. All they care about is applying a tit-for-tat. The only industry China could target, that would have any effect on the USA, is agriculture. It just happens to be that most agricultural products come from red states.

China will target whatever they believe will have the most impact. And if war were to break out, Silicon Valley would be HIGH on their target list.


The US exports Tech and aerospace equipment and oil and oil producing equipment to foreign countries routinely, not just agriculture. All of this however is irrelevant as this discussion of strategic targeting is predicated on the prior destruction of all retaliation capability. In the case of the an enemy targeting the US that means the destruction of all 4000+ bases, 1000+ missile silos and 14 to 18 missile subs.


All of this is on the assumption of the current geopolitical and political context. In other words "if a war broke out today" scenario. If a war broke out lets say 5 to 10 years from now, things will obviously be different from whats stated above.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Cynic Hero 86 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:27 pm

thomasglee wrote:
Cynic Hero 86 wrote:In an actual all out war between China and the US, China would target primarily red states if the strategic weaponry comes in to play. Note that in the Current trade war, the Chinese are deliberately targeting red state industries and are generally avoiding Blue industries.


Really? Once again, you take huge leaps. China targeted industries which export a lot to China; they don't care if the products come from red or blue states. All they care about is applying a tit-for-tat. The only industry China could target, that would have any effect on the USA, is agriculture. It just happens to be that most agricultural products come from red states.

China will target whatever they believe will have the most impact. And if war were to break out, Silicon Valley would be HIGH on their target list.


The US exports Tech and aerospace equipment and oil and oil producing equipment to foreign countries routinely, not just agriculture. All of this however is irrelevant as this discussion of strategic targeting is predicated on the prior destruction of all retaliation capability. In the case of the an enemy targeting the US that means the destruction of all 4000+ bases, 1000+ missile silos and 14 to 18 missile subs.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by thomasglee » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:59 pm

Cynic Hero 86 wrote:In an actual all out war between China and the US, China would target primarily red states if the strategic weaponry comes in to play. Note that in the Current trade war, the Chinese are deliberately targeting red state industries and are generally avoiding Blue industries.


Really? Once again, you take huge leaps. China targeted industries which export a lot to China; they don't care if the products come from red or blue states. All they care about is applying a tit-for-tat. The only industry China could target, that would have any effect on the USA, is agriculture. It just happens to be that most agricultural products come from red states.

China will target whatever they believe will have the most impact. And if war were to break out, Silicon Valley would be HIGH on their target list.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Cynic Hero 86 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:31 pm

In an actual all out war between China and the US, China would target primarily red states if the strategic weaponry comes in to play. Note that in the Current trade war, the Chinese are deliberately targeting red state industries and are generally avoiding Blue industries.

Re: 2-Jul-18 World View -- Generational explanation of today's vitriolic divisiveness in America

Post by Guest » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:24 pm

You had a chance to save your race, and you blew it.

Where ever Hitler is, he is laughing his ass off...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ_6KuYeaVk

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