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Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by Trevor » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:11 pm

They may not even wait that long. They're out of the news right now, but we'll likely see another missile test within the next month or so. It does appear that North Korea has calculated that unless they launch a direct invasion, South Korea is unwilling to respond.

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by Guest » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:33 am

Guest wrote:Japanese analysts believe that post Olympics NK will start trouble again. Why can't the North Koreans just quit while they are ahead?
Because China is planning to invade Taiwan and needs a diversion.

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by Guest » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:41 pm

Japanese analysts believe that post Olympics NK will start trouble again. Why can't the North Koreans just quit while they are ahead?

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by Guest » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:16 am

CrouchingTiger wrote:
John wrote:
Guest wrote: > John, do you believe the North is an extension o China's foreign
> policy or operating independently?
Not a lot is known about China's relationship with North Korea, but
some things are. There are undoubtedly people in Beijing who welcome
NK's nuclear missile development, because the missiles are pointed at
the US. But it's also known Kim Jong-un has repeatedly snubbed the
CCP leadership, that many in the CCP are furious at what NK is doing
because the collapse of the regime would flood northeastern China with
NK refugees and a nuclear accident would flood northeastern China with
radiation. These days, China has a better relationship with South
Korea than with North Korea.
NK's physical existence is all but wholly dependent on china. Any independent operating is, in the chineese way, only acceptable if it doesn't threaten their power. Would Kim really talk a big game and risk starting a war on their back door without backing?

china has known since the nomination of Trump that their game is likely up. Everything since then has just been preparation.
Good call! You win a set of Samsonite luggage!

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by CrouchingTiger » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:41 am

John wrote:
Guest wrote: > John, do you believe the North is an extension o China's foreign
> policy or operating independently?
Not a lot is known about China's relationship with North Korea, but
some things are. There are undoubtedly people in Beijing who welcome
NK's nuclear missile development, because the missiles are pointed at
the US. But it's also known Kim Jong-un has repeatedly snubbed the
CCP leadership, that many in the CCP are furious at what NK is doing
because the collapse of the regime would flood northeastern China with
NK refugees and a nuclear accident would flood northeastern China with
radiation. These days, China has a better relationship with South
Korea than with North Korea.
NK's physical existence is all but wholly dependent on china. Any independent operating is, in the chineese way, only acceptable if it doesn't threaten their power. Would Kim really talk a big game and risk starting a war on their back door without backing?

china has known since the nomination of Trump that their game is likely up. Everything since then has just been preparation.

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by John » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:40 am

Guest wrote: > John, do you believe the North is an extension o China's foreign
> policy or operating independently?
Not a lot is known about China's relationship with North Korea, but
some things are. There are undoubtedly people in Beijing who welcome
NK's nuclear missile development, because the missiles are pointed at
the US. But it's also known Kim Jong-un has repeatedly snubbed the
CCP leadership, that many in the CCP are furious at what NK is doing
because the collapse of the regime would flood northeastern China with
NK refugees and a nuclear accident would flood northeastern China with
radiation. These days, China has a better relationship with South
Korea than with North Korea.

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by Guest » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:38 pm

John, do you believe the North is an extension o China's foreign policy or operating independently?

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by devorah » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:53 pm

Okay guys. Time out: go to your corners.
First of all, doesn't the NY generational "analysis" seem odd to you? Since when is media concerned about factual history?
Just asking.
Please consider these basic components:
This territorial division was part of the 1948 FDR/Eisenhower great post WWII giveaway and empire splitting. Now North Korea's population consists of over 25,000,000 and a per capita GDP of $1,000. South Korea holds over 51,000,000 people with GDP of $30,919.
Recently several North Korean soldiers have defected--no small accomplishment.
At an earlier time in history, East Germans looked over The Wall into West Germany. Some recalled post-WWII clean-up years when easterners formed bucket lines to remove bombed rubble while westerners watched bulldozers doing the job more efficiently. Then easterners watched the Berlin Airlift. We did not leave westerners to starve. As time passed and communism/socialism failed, The Wall came down.
The point is that Korea is still divided and Kim, the fat rocket guy, is playing power games. Who needs a Russian May 1st military show -off parade? The Olympics scenario is a manipulation meant to be played out on an international stage. And by gosh, it's working.
(Lay off John. If you trust an NY media source, your vision is skewed.)

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by John » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:17 pm

I have no idea what idiotic thing you're referring to. If you claim
that I made a mistake in 2007, then provide a link to the article,
and quote the specific text.

Re: 30-Jan-18 World View -- NY Times publishes a generational analysis of South Korea / Brief generational history of Ko

by CH86 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:10 pm

John wrote:
CH86 wrote: > Xenakis can't admit that the 386 generation is an artist
> generation because he already claimed them as prophets in his
> 2000's articles. JohnX knows full well that they are artists but
> he can't acknowledge that fact because that would mean he makes
> mistakes just like all humans do and is not a divine guru that he
> regards himself as.
The 386ers are Nomads, as I've always said, not Artists. As usual,
you're a complete moron.
I read the article again and clearly mean the april revolution generation. Xenakis can't admit the april revolution generation are artists and the 386ers are prophets because he already claimed the former as prophets and the latter as nomads in his 2007 articles. The prophet status of the 386ers is obvious since they were the students protesting the security regime of general park and later were massacred when the government sent in the tanks. Later in life they like most prophet generations become more conservative now that they actually have to govern but now block critical reforms. Xenakis knows the truth about their 386ers generational status but can't admit that fact because that would mean he makes mistakes just like all humans do.

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