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I can only guess because I haven't researched it. Awakening climaxes
can occur late, so the fall of the Berlin wall is likely for
East Germany. For France, I would guess something to do with
de Gaulle. For the UK, maybe something to do with Thatcher,
although one would have to look at the four nations separately.

jmm1184 wrote: > Speaking of awakening climaxes, do you have an idea of what
> happened in France or the UK as an awakening climax? I doubt they
> would have shared watergate as an awakening climax, but it doesn't
> make sense for the fall of the berlin wall to be it
> either.

World War II was an Awakening era war for Russia. Ten years ago,
David Kaiser opined that WW II was an Awakening war for Russia, but it
so thoroughly destroyed the Prophet generation that it postponed the
next crisis war, which hasn't yet occurred. This is similar to the
reasoning behind a "First Turning Reset," that occurs when a crisis
occurs during a non-crisis era. This could be an unexpected massive
invasion, or it could be a forced relocation of an entire population.
In either case, the population acts according to its era, but returns
to a First Turning Recovery Era following the crisis.

jmm1184 wrote: > John, have you come across any anti-war or anti-establishment
> activities in E. Europe during WWII?

> I remember on a thread earlier from a few months back one of the
> users suspecting Russia actually went through a first-turning
> reset, and I'm increasingly thinking this to be the case. I also
> suspect this is the case for E Europe, except strangely enough for
> the Balkans - perhaps because the Nazis were not as harsh
> there?

Yeah, they were called communist revolutions.

Were there antiwar movements in E Europe, the Balkans, Russia, or the Middle East during WWII?

The 'anti-war movement' in World War I

Captain Obvious wrote:After a nuclear war, will anyone bother with writing history books?

John wrote:

uncertainty wrote: > What you can't not love about this forum is the
> consistency. "Merry Christmas don't forget WWIII could be this
> coming year...."

I would say this the other way around. It's the thousands of
mainstream media sources that are all consistent with one another.
This forum is the only one that's inconsistent with them.

uncertainty wrote: > At this point I'm so interested to see what the post war era looks
> like. I wonder if the underlying anxiety goes away at that point
> or if it is just seared into the fiber of your being.

If that question really interests you, then do some research
on news, movies and literature immediately after World War II.

On a number of occasions, I've quoted what Hannah Arendt wrote in her
1950 book, <i>The Origins of Totalitarianism</i>:

John wrote:...
On a number of occasions, I've quoted what Hannah Arendt wrote in her
1950 book, <i>The Origins of Totalitarianism</i>:

Hannah Arendt in 1950 wrote: > ................................................we watch the development
> of the same phenomena -- homelessness on an unprecedented scale,
> rootlessness to an unprecedented depth.

> .....................It is as though mankind had divided itself between
> those who believe in human omnipotence (who think that everything
> is possible if one knows how to organize masses for it) and those
> for whom powerlessness has become the major experience of their
> lives."