FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
> I'm not buying your self-characterization, buckeroo!
> You do see the inevitable, but you also leave "wriggle room" to
> allow for a "worthwhile outcome" for the world after the
> aforementioned "inevitable".
> If you didn't, you simply wouldn't bother publishing this copious
> amount of hard gathered information.
The first thing for you to understand is that you (I mean you
personally) often apply rational reasoning to irrational events.
Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor and the South's attack on Fort Sumter
were completely irrational decisions, in that they were based on
erroneous assessments of the enemy, and the enemy's supposed
unwillingness to strike back. The same is probably true of China and
North Korea today.
So when you attribute rational reasons to my remark about "fatalism,"
you're overlooking irrational reasons like the fact that at my age, I
personally have no desire to even try to survive, and even if I could
survive, the level of discomfort would not make it worthwhile for me.
Surviving generational crisis wars and rebuilding the world is for
young people, not for old people.
The second thing you have to understand is that I believe everything
I write. This may seem like a remarkable thing to say, but in my
experience, most people don't, especially in politics or the media.
Climate change activists, as a group, do not believe what they say,
because they don't live their lives that way. For example, Al Gore
personally uses enough energy and emits enough co2 to be the
equivalent of a small country, so he obviously doesn't believe the
nonsense he writes about.
On the other hand, I've changed my entire life since I began
this project, starting in 2005 with selling my condo at the
height of the real estate bubble.
Then there's the related issue that I'm obsessed. The obsession is
irrational, but like all obsessions it can be justified by reason,
given the seriousness of the situation. It's also justified by the
fact that it's really cool to know more about what's going on in the
world than almost anyone else in the world. This may seem like a bold
conclusion, but it comes from 2007 articles in the London Times and
the Congressional Quarterly that show that even long-standing experts
on the Mideast couldn't answer simple questions like, "Is al-Qaeda
Sunni or Shiite?"
** Guess what? British politicians and journalists are just as ignorant as Americans
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... m#e070114b
Not being able to answer a question like that is like saying you're a
mathematician, but you don't know whether 2+2 equals 3 or 4. And what
I've seen in the ten years since then, with the idiotic statements
that journalists, analysts and politicians make every day, has made me
even more certain.
The key to understanding this is that after 15 years of doing this,
and almost 6,000 articles and Generational Dynamics analyses, all of
which have turned out to be true or are trending true, I've come to
the conclusion that I know what's going to happen more than any
politicians, journalists or analysts do, that politicians have no
effect on anything, that political objectives are never more than pure
wishful thinking, and that what's going to happen is going to happen,
irrespective of what the politicians say or do.
That's what fatalism means. What's going to happen is going to
happen. And what you describe as "wriggle room" are just relatively
insignificant details in the entire scheme of things.
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
> Do you agree with this John: This is the best possible world at
> any particular time, and that which happens must happen and must
> have happened, and it is as it is as a "classroom" to allow
> humanity, and individual humans, to either learn or not learn what
> they need to learn to get more of what they want.
No. I do not agree with that, because it assumes that there are
choices. There is no choice. This is the only possible world at this
particular time, and therefore it's the best possible world and it's
also the worst possible world. What's going to happen is going to
happen.
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
> Does humanity WANT to totally exterminate itself? I would say
> no. I would also say that that would be an impossible task, as
> we're too widely dispersed on the planet for such an occurrence.
> Does humanity WANT to send itself back to "more simple times" by
> destroying their "high technology/culture" and killing the vast
> majority of it's population? Many people do. I see them to be a
> tiny minority.
I've never said that humanity is going to exterminate itself, and I've
contradicted people who, for example, have said that this is the
Biblical "last times." What I have said is that I estimate that 3-4
billion people will be killed from nuclear war, ground war, disease,
famine and suicide, leaving behind 3-4 billion people to hold
international conferences to define a new world order and to rebuild
the world.
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
> What does humanity (as a "thing") actually WANT? What they TRULY
> want, they will get. It's not "fatalism" to accept the rising and
> falling of the tide.
Actually, accepting the rising and falling of the tide is EXACTLY what
fatalism is. It's only not fatalism if you're a politician and you
psss laws and regulations that you believe will affect the rising and
falling of the tide.
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
> Perhaps a return to the neolithic will be a "tonic" for
> humanity. After all, what ELSE have we got to do as a species than
> "try shit out" to see if we like it? We're not on a time
> schedule. We ain't got no BOSS!! If it's gonna be 2000 years 'til
> we get back to the 1356 AD level of "human progress", so what?
> There's no "you took too long" penalties!
Sure. Generational crisis wars are FANTASTIC and WONDERFUL. Like
huge forest fires, they clean out all the deadwood, and give rise to
those great international conferences that define a New World Order.
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
> What they want, they will get,.. so figure out what they want, and
> surf that wave to achieve your best happiness with the time you
> are given. Thus has it ever been, and will ever be.
I'm not sure what planet you're living on, but who gets what they
want, except by pure luck? Who got what they wanted in WW II?
One quote I left out of today's story about Yemen is from Saleh's
foreign minister, who was asked what 3 years of war had accomplished.
He said, "It's accomplished nothing -- destruction, misery, death."
What's going to happen is going to happen.