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Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by gerald » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:38 pm

gerald wrote:
shoshin wrote:There are a couple of flaws in your argument concerning the revolutionary change brewing in the heartland. Yes, there is a gap (ok, a GULF) between the thinking and viewpoints of the "coastals" and the "fly-overs." But that's not going to produce any change via the ballot box. The problem is two-fold: the "coastals" outnumber the "fly-overs," and, more importantly, the "coastals" vote in much higher percentages than he "flyovers." Sure, the heartland folk will show up at rallies, and clap for Trump (or Cruz, Walker, Santorum, etc), and they may even vote in the primary. But once their boy loses, they won't show up to vote.

So, unless you're positing an armed revolution, nothing will change.
I am only making an observation, talking and acting are two very different things. -- history is full of intrigue, etc.

and for what it is worth ----

Hitler came to power as a"minority" group
On election day September 14, 1930, the Nazis received 6,371,000 votes – over eighteen percent of the total http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/r ... /elect.htm


During the Revolutionary War, ( US ) only THREE percent of the people actually fought against Great Britain.https://freedomintelligence.wordpress.c ... percenter/

A few can change the direction of the many, for good or ill. --- same as always.
Martin Armstrong Warns: The #1 Terrorist Group Is You, Domestic Citizens

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-0 ... c-citizens

nice

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by gerald » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:29 pm

MarvyGuy wrote:Look you guys are getting far too worked up over all of this. For this particular ailment I prescribe a dose of ZH posts for a minimum of 10 minutes every day to offset any irregular bowel movements resulting from the impending doom and destruction.

Read the posts on this one:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-0 ... s-accounts

erkme73
No, I'm on a PC, running chrome, on a 70" 4k television. The comments are fine until about the 30th or so reply (after reply)... at that point the comments are nearly vertical, taking up only about 5% of the screen. Everything else to the left is white space. No ads. Using ABP.

MANvsMACHINE
Turn your television on it's side so it is no longer landscape but rather portrait (counter clockwise 90 degrees). It should be easier to read left to right now. How's that?

BigJim
It's great! But the sentences are now running vertically, for some reason.

pods
Duh, turn your head.
Must I do everything?


Wonderful stuff!

Okay back to regularly scheduled doom and gloom
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-0 ... -time-ever
Hay, --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay --this site is entertainment!! ( sorry John ,I do not want to imply anything negative about what you do, and I am unbelievably impressed at what you do.) to the others get real!! -- you think humanity is not entertainment???
we are bugs in a petri dish-- enjoy--
sorry if I seem a bit twisted - but it makes "reality" ( humanity) a bit more " logical"

cheers

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by MarvyGuy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:49 pm

And while I am back to doom and gloom here is a really good "layman's" explanation for the uncoupling of physical vs futures pricing now taking place.

http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/08/30/whe ... delinkage/

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by MarvyGuy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:38 pm

Look you guys are getting far too worked up over all of this. For this particular ailment I prescribe a dose of ZH posts for a minimum of 10 minutes every day to offset any irregular bowel movements resulting from the impending doom and destruction.

Read the posts on this one:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-0 ... s-accounts

erkme73
No, I'm on a PC, running chrome, on a 70" 4k television. The comments are fine until about the 30th or so reply (after reply)... at that point the comments are nearly vertical, taking up only about 5% of the screen. Everything else to the left is white space. No ads. Using ABP.

MANvsMACHINE
Turn your television on it's side so it is no longer landscape but rather portrait (counter clockwise 90 degrees). It should be easier to read left to right now. How's that?

BigJim
It's great! But the sentences are now running vertically, for some reason.

pods
Duh, turn your head.
Must I do everything?


Wonderful stuff!

Okay back to regularly scheduled doom and gloom
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-0 ... -time-ever

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by Guest » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:54 pm

gerald wrote:An observation --- regarding Trumps comments on immigration --- I have traveled to foreign countries a bit, Some countries, which I prefer not to mention, will NOT let you in the country UNLESS you have a ticked to LEAVE. They don't want to deal with "illegals".

I will not go into details, because it is NOT PC.


I'm not PC either, so I'll say what I have to say.

Latim America has harsh immigration policies. (Google Mexico's, Hitler would be impressed.) Latin America nations have fought full scale wars entirely over illegal immigration, the Soccer Wars being a relatively recent example. Currently the Domican Republic is in the process of expelling half a million Haitian illegals (really it will end up being over a million, if the Dominican government can get away with it) and Latin America has given its tactic support. The Communists is Vene-utopia are going to push out 5 million Columbians. The list goes on and on. Latin America is entirely fueled on hypocrisy.


I can only sneer when I hear Mexicans cry about Gringo racism...

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by gerald » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:16 pm

An observation --- regarding Trumps comments on immigration --- I have traveled to foreign countries a bit, Some countries, which I prefer not to mention, will NOT let you in the country UNLESS you have a ticked to LEAVE. They don't want to deal with "illegals".

I will not go into details, because it is NOT PC.

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by gerald » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:41 pm

shoshin wrote:There are a couple of flaws in your argument concerning the revolutionary change brewing in the heartland. Yes, there is a gap (ok, a GULF) between the thinking and viewpoints of the "coastals" and the "fly-overs." But that's not going to produce any change via the ballot box. The problem is two-fold: the "coastals" outnumber the "fly-overs," and, more importantly, the "coastals" vote in much higher percentages than he "flyovers." Sure, the heartland folk will show up at rallies, and clap for Trump (or Cruz, Walker, Santorum, etc), and they may even vote in the primary. But once their boy loses, they won't show up to vote.

So, unless you're positing an armed revolution, nothing will change.
I am only making an observation, talking and acting are two very different things. -- history is full of intrigue, etc.

and for what it is worth ----

Hitler came to power as a"minority" group
On election day September 14, 1930, the Nazis received 6,371,000 votes – over eighteen percent of the total http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/r ... /elect.htm


During the Revolutionary War, ( US ) only THREE percent of the people actually fought against Great Britain.https://freedomintelligence.wordpress.c ... percenter/

A few can change the direction of the many, for good or ill. --- same as always.

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by shoshin » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:52 am

There are a couple of flaws in your argument concerning the revolutionary change brewing in the heartland. Yes, there is a gap (ok, a GULF) between the thinking and viewpoints of the "coastals" and the "fly-overs." But that's not going to produce any change via the ballot box. The problem is two-fold: the "coastals" outnumber the "fly-overs," and, more importantly, the "coastals" vote in much higher percentages than he "flyovers." Sure, the heartland folk will show up at rallies, and clap for Trump (or Cruz, Walker, Santorum, etc), and they may even vote in the primary. But once their boy loses, they won't show up to vote.

So, unless you're positing an armed revolution, nothing will change.

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by gerald » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:54 pm

Guest wrote:
MarvyGuy wrote:How can a guy that builds huge towers and puts his name on them be trusted (and has that psychopath Hillery seated front row during his 3rd wedding). It is all a big show. US will wind up somewhere between UK surveillance state and South Africa or perhaps Zimbabwe. BO and the GenX hordes have systematically destroyed the US over 7+ years and there will be no turning back the clock now. US is on track for the French Revolution redux (proto Marxist).

Quo Vadis
America is on track to become an extension of Mexico: a narco drug state where robbery, kidnapping, rape and murder are as common as sunlight. The liberalism of the boomers and many of their politically correct offspring has born fruit and everyone is eating it now. The West is on track to become a giant third world slum-that's all. Nothing more. Anyone with common sense (and enough money) is heading for the life boats (emigrating).

The revolution redux will be racial genocide. The white population has become so PC, I wonder if they will even fight back, even when their loved ones were being slaughtered in front of them. I really do wonder...

If one leaves the coastal urban cities and a few other urban centers, one can enter a different world, where you can go to a gun show and see men and women with "golf bags" containing rifles and live ammo. Where you can play with a Gatling gun using live ammo, see the American flag, read the constitution, bill of rights, see the flag of "don't tread on me" or "liberty or death", etc. Don't forget the mainstream media is controlled by a few in the coastal cities including Washington DC. --- Example from Rush Limbaugh who has a respectable audience of at least 10 million + so as said http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/ ... _they_hate

"GOP Elites Struggle to Comprehend Trump's Appeal to the Base They Hate"

"Peggy Noonan, for lack of a better way of mentioning it, is part of this ruling class in Washington. That is her world, and it always has been."

So Peggy left Washington recently. She's been out there talking to you, people like you, and she has been shocked at what she found. And she's now a believer. She thinks what's happening outside Washington's real. The way she describes it today is, "America is in play," meaning all of this support for Trump.

But more than that, all of this opposition to the fixtures of Washington is real. It's not fringe. It's not tiny. It's not made up of kooks. It is more and more mainstream, and she has been stunned! She writes that she's stunned to learn that there are Hispanics that feel this way and that there are African-Americans who feel this way, and that there are blacks and Latinos and Asians and you name it.

In other words: Inside the Beltway they think all of this anti-Washington stuff is a bunch of conservative fringe kooks. Peggy went out there -- she's been talking to people, she's traveled the country -- and she's found out that every demographic under the sun is represented by these people who are unhappy with the leadership that they're getting in all of Washington. Not just Republicans, not just Democrats, but the whole shebang."
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I live in flyover country and here there are bill boards and ads in local papers for fire arm training and concealed carry for men and women. in some of the gun shops you here complaints regarding a shortage of ammo.

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This division between the "capital" and the rest of the country exists elsewhere, such as, Paris vs. France and Buenos Aires vs. Argentina.

hmmmm

Re: 28-Aug-15 World View -- Explanation of Price/Earnings ratio and Stock Valuations

by Guest » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:46 pm

MarvyGuy wrote:How can a guy that builds huge towers and puts his name on them be trusted (and has that psychopath Hillery seated front row during his 3rd wedding). It is all a big show. US will wind up somewhere between UK surveillance state and South Africa or perhaps Zimbabwe. BO and the GenX hordes have systematically destroyed the US over 7+ years and there will be no turning back the clock now. US is on track for the French Revolution redux (proto Marxist).

Quo Vadis
America is on track to become an extension of Mexico: a narco drug state where robbery, kidnapping, rape and murder are as common as sunlight. The liberalism of the boomers and many of their politically correct offspring has born fruit and everyone is eating it now. The West is on track to become a giant third world slum-that's all. Nothing more. Anyone with common sense (and enough money) is heading for the life boats (emigrating).

The revolution redux will be racial genocide. The white population has become so PC, I wonder if they will even fight back, even when their loved ones were being slaughtered in front of them. I really do wonder...

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