solomani wrote:
Agree totally. War now for China will lead to destruction of China.
All wars ? Of all kinds? that China participates in, will lead to the destruction of China ?
Some would say that China already won one war with the Philippines.
China was reported to be mobilizing for war with the Philippines, the U.S. negotiated a "deal" whereby by China and the Philippines both refrained from visiting the disputed reef with "government vessels from either side".
China has since operated government vessels in the seas around the disputed reef and prevented Philippine fishermen from fishing there, as the Filipinos had done for decades before the dispute. The Philippines has avoided sending any government vessels into the area to avoid being accused of violating the agreement and giving China an excuse to attack.
Some would say that China won that war. Clearly that war, if it was a war, did not destroy China.
Do you mean a short, brief, shooting war between say the Philippines and China that ends in a cease fire negotiated by Obama which freezes everything in place and creates a de-facto war zone where countries other than China are too afraid to explore for oil or other resources in the permanent "war zone" created by the cease fire. That would be a win for China resulting from a war where China was not destroyed.
Do you mean a one sided thermonuclear war between China and Vietnam where Vietnam pays a very high price and afterward a "neutral" Communist government, that does not side with any country against China, takes power in Vietnam. If China avoided a nuclear war with anybody but a few countries that had no nuclear arms, would that bring about the destruction of China?
If China engaged in a thermonuclear war with India where India exhausted their Thermonuclear weapons and then sued for peace, would that destroy China?
If China started a brief shooting war with Japan and it ended with a negotiated ceasefire under threat of nuclear war on Japan ( who has no thermonuclear arsenal ) by China ( who has the worlds third largest thermonuclear arsenal ) and it ends without Japan gaining any territory, and with the dispute over existing Japanese territories remaining unresolved, would that result in the destruction of China?
Only a full scale thermonuclear war between the United States and China, or between Russia and China would result in the partial destruction of both combatants. Under those conditions China would be destroyed ( at least partially ). But even a limited thermonuclear war where China did not surrender unconditionally would leave China the most populous country on earth with one of the largest economies and one of the most powerful military machines and one of the largest thermonuclear arsenals.
You, or I, may, believe the above scenarios are unlikely, but China may rationally believe that all aggressive scenarios will, in the long term, be in their favor because they are on the rise and the west is in decline. The sooner they act, the sooner they can lock up more world resources for themselves.