by gerald » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:14 pm
John wrote:Dear Richard,
richard5za wrote:
> As a non American could someone please explain to me the
> generalised disquiet by many Americans on the recent Health Care
> Bill that went through Congress on 24 December.
> Is it because they think that the poor don't deserve free health
> care? Or is it because there is financial manipulation / fraud of
> some sort in the way things are to be structured?
I've called it a "proposal of economic insanity" because it's nothing
more than a rationing plan. The way to solve the health care problem
is to increase the supply of health services -- more doctors, nurses,
equipment, etc. But the proposal punishes the health care industry by
forced price controls, and that's the recipe for economic disaster,
similar to what happened in the Nixon administration.
** Obama's health plan, a proposal of economic insanity, appears to be losing support
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... 25#e090725
Here's a different view:
Yves Smith wrote:
> Top 10 Reasons to Kill Senate Health Care Bill
- Forces you to pay up to 8% of your income to private insurance
corporations — whether you want to or not.
- If you refuse to buy the insurance, you’ll have to pay
penalties of up to 2% of your annual income to the IRS.
- Many will be forced to buy poor-quality insurance they can’t
afford to use, with $11,900 in annual out-of-pocket expenses over
and above their annual premiums.
- Massive restriction on a woman’s right to choose, designed to
trigger a challenge to Roe v. Wade in the Supreme Court.
- Paid for by taxes on the middle class insurance plan you have
right now through your employer, causing them to cut back benefits
and increase co-pays.
- Many of the taxes to pay for the bill start now, but most
Americans won’t see any benefits — like an end to discrimination
against those with preexisting conditions — until 2014 when the
program begins.
- Allows insurance companies to charge people who are older 300%
more than others.
- Grants monopolies to drug companies that will keep generic
versions of expensive biotech drugs from ever coming to market.
- No re-importation of prescription drugs, which would save
consumers $100 billion over 10 years.
- The cost of medical care will continue to rise, and insurance
premiums for a family of four will rise an average of $1,000 a
year — meaning in 10 years, your family’s insurance premium will
be $10,000 more annually than it is right now.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/12/ ... -bill.html
If you go to the article, you'll find links that support each of the
ten reasons.
John
The above lists a long series of things as to why things may not change, and they deal with money and control. Too many depend on how things now work to allow a solution.
A nations health care costs should be around 3% to 4% or less, and we are talking about advanced top quality care.
Health care needs can basically be divided into four categories--
aging
injuries
disease
genetic dysfunctions
Much of the above can be minimized by taking appropriate actions but are not, for obvious reasons. Such as--
Taking personal responsibility for one's health, this includes lifestyle, diet and appropriate exercise -- this requires education.
The issue of diet is multifaceted and extremely important.
This requires education regarding the type of food we LIKE to eat and the QUALITY of the food we do eat.
Quality is determined by the way food is processed in restaurants and supermarkets, and HOW food is produced, this includes
the type of food, the mineral/ nutrient content of soil, and the contaminate level in the water of the growing medium. (land, lakes, rivers or seas)
A healthy environment and diet will minimize disease. Disease is generally an outward symptom of an internal imbalance or deficiency.
A healthy environment also means a lack of parasites, a major problem in the poor countries.
As for genetic dysfunctions, that is a difficult issue and it's cause I have hinted at in other posts.
[quote="John"]Dear Richard,
[quote="richard5za"]
> As a non American could someone please explain to me the
> generalised disquiet by many Americans on the recent Health Care
> Bill that went through Congress on 24 December.
> Is it because they think that the poor don't deserve free health
> care? Or is it because there is financial manipulation / fraud of
> some sort in the way things are to be structured?
[/quote]
I've called it a "proposal of economic insanity" because it's nothing
more than a rationing plan. The way to solve the health care problem
is to increase the supply of health services -- more doctors, nurses,
equipment, etc. But the proposal punishes the health care industry by
forced price controls, and that's the recipe for economic disaster,
similar to what happened in the Nixon administration.
[i][url=http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi-bin/D.PL?xct=gd.e090725#e090725]** Obama's health plan, a proposal of economic insanity, appears to be losing support[/url]
** [url]http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi-bin/D.PL?xct=gd.e090725#e090725[/url][/i]
Here's a different view:
[quote="Yves Smith"]
> Top 10 Reasons to Kill Senate Health Care Bill[list=1]
[*]Forces you to pay up to 8% of your income to private insurance
corporations — whether you want to or not.
[*]If you refuse to buy the insurance, you’ll have to pay
penalties of up to 2% of your annual income to the IRS.
[*]Many will be forced to buy poor-quality insurance they can’t
afford to use, with $11,900 in annual out-of-pocket expenses over
and above their annual premiums.
[*]Massive restriction on a woman’s right to choose, designed to
trigger a challenge to Roe v. Wade in the Supreme Court.
[*]Paid for by taxes on the middle class insurance plan you have
right now through your employer, causing them to cut back benefits
and increase co-pays.
[*]Many of the taxes to pay for the bill start now, but most
Americans won’t see any benefits — like an end to discrimination
against those with preexisting conditions — until 2014 when the
program begins.
[*]Allows insurance companies to charge people who are older 300%
more than others.
[*]Grants monopolies to drug companies that will keep generic
versions of expensive biotech drugs from ever coming to market.
[*]No re-importation of prescription drugs, which would save
consumers $100 billion over 10 years.
[*]The cost of medical care will continue to rise, and insurance
premiums for a family of four will rise an average of $1,000 a
year — meaning in 10 years, your family’s insurance premium will
be $10,000 more annually than it is right now.[/list]
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/12/top-ten-reasons-to-kill-the-senate-health-care-bill.html
[/quote]
If you go to the article, you'll find links that support each of the
ten reasons.
John[/quote]
The above lists a long series of things as to why things may not change, and they deal with money and control. Too many depend on how things now work to allow a solution.
A nations health care costs should be around 3% to 4% or less, and we are talking about advanced top quality care.
Health care needs can basically be divided into four categories--
aging
injuries
disease
genetic dysfunctions
Much of the above can be minimized by taking appropriate actions but are not, for obvious reasons. Such as--
Taking personal responsibility for one's health, this includes lifestyle, diet and appropriate exercise -- this requires education.
The issue of diet is multifaceted and extremely important.
This requires education regarding the type of food we LIKE to eat and the QUALITY of the food we do eat.
Quality is determined by the way food is processed in restaurants and supermarkets, and HOW food is produced, this includes
the type of food, the mineral/ nutrient content of soil, and the contaminate level in the water of the growing medium. (land, lakes, rivers or seas)
A healthy environment and diet will minimize disease. Disease is generally an outward symptom of an internal imbalance or deficiency.
A healthy environment also means a lack of parasites, a major problem in the poor countries.
As for genetic dysfunctions, that is a difficult issue and it's cause I have hinted at in other posts.